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fargos handmaiden

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Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« on: September 01, 2022, 01:05:27 am »

Another saddle fit idea for the big Mouse. Someone had suggested on another forum an Albetta 15" Arsbian tree saddle.for their Icelandic, saying that her horse.was.not an icelandic but a pony of similar size/shape. (Zpeedy is not the icelNdic but 13.5 h, very stoutly built, broad shouldered.for.his size.) She was very satisfied with the fit. I am going crazy trying to figure fit on my own and i have found no ssddle.fitters in.my area. Of course i still have to be able to centerfire the rigging for him because of his galling problems.

My other saddles.have been 16", mainly because buying second-hand, that's what I always wound up with. However i have lost quite a bit of.weight and always felt like i was sliding too far back in a 16".

Can the Albetta Arabs be center-fire rigged?
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ClaudiaIN

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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2022, 04:54:17 am »

Where are you located ?  You can find a dealer near you here

http://www.actioncompany.com/storeLocator.php

Also,I think Kysa is a dealer maybe?

Their saddles

http://www.actioncompany.com/products.php







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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2022, 07:04:56 am »

I get file.not found on those.two links. I just found out Abetta no longer exists. Dsrn!
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fargos handmaiden

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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2022, 09:19:11 am »

As much as i hate australian saddles, can they be fitted with the centdrfire or Y rigging? Perhaps with the converter kits?
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2022, 10:03:39 am »

I was just going to suggest an Australian saddle.  There is one brand (I think it's the leading brand and the best one) that made a saddle that had an adjustable tree.  I was looking at them when I was faced with the same fitting problems.  Didn't really want an Australian saddle so got a Synergist instead.  Several saddle companies offer a trial period or are willing to take the saddle back, so check on that before buying and that way you aren't stuck with a saddle that won't fit.  If it's not a perfect fit you can always put shims under the saddle tree.  Goggle Specialized Saddles and watch their video on doing this.
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2022, 10:34:20 am »

1.  Arab tree.  An Arab tree is generally made with a medium wide angle in front and a very quick twist to almost flat across the center of the back. I have found this to be a good fit on a number of gaited horses. Again you need a saddle that fits the horse and it’s not necessarily going to be any particular name of tree. I don’t know if this is going to work for speedy but it is certainly something to try. There are many companies that make Arab tree saddles it doesn’t have to just be Abetta, which did go out of business at the beginning of Covid.

2 center fire rigging. Centerfire rigging can be a good option for certain horses, depending on where their girth groove is. I would not however consider it an option to prevent girth galling. I have met an awful lot of horses that cannot accommodate centerfire rigging with their particular confirmation. I would be far more inclined to change the material of the girth, and most particular never use neoprene on a horse that gets girth galls. I have two such horses and the problem is fixed by using a wool fleece girth. There are other options as well. Most particularly you need to not girth too tight as then the skin cannot slide smoothly under the girth when the horse moves its front legs.

3.  Australian saddle. This can be an option, and is a very good option for horses that do better in an English tree than a western tree. No it cannot be center fire rigged, but the rigging already is farther back from the front legs than a typical full rigged western saddle.  I would actually recommend a Wintec stock saddle, because it can be adjusted with both a gullet plate and shims to fit a wide variety of horses. Not every horse, but probably 85%. But you would want someone who knows how to fit WinTec to help you. I personally own three WinTec Aussies and find them excellent options for both a variety of different horses and the people who ride, but that is my situation.
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2022, 11:47:13 am »

I was thinking Wintec instead of Abetta.   
It’s weird on the links, I guess when I googled Abetta the old site comes up.
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2022, 06:18:02 pm »

I have found more good advice on the FB page Saddle Fit Questions and Answers. Read the guidelines and post necessary pictures of the horse and saddle for the Saddle Fitters to comment on. They are very helpful. Plus you learn alot from looking at everyone's pictures.
Saddle fitting is not easy. Good luck
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2022, 04:29:06 pm »

Freeform treeless saddle. It's super adjustable, rigging can be moved from the front, middle or back, including centerfire rigging. It fits pretty much every horse from mutton withered to shark fin withers. Has a "happy ass" seat with super soft padding. Keeps it's value so if you decide it's not for you, you can sell it for what you've paid (used). I have a black nearly new Freeform Scout for sale- 22" base with a 16" western seat, western fenders.  https://youtu.be/89z9KAXIwGk    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/769309801068904/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A01c0291c-7a10-4edb-b2e5-f293807e48a8
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Re: Another Saddle Fit Idea for Speedy Gonzales
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2022, 08:08:19 am »

Oooh, man! Just saw your notice, Utah. That would have been a great saddle except i think w/Speedy's short back, i would need a 15" saddle. Just looked their saddles up w/choice of Y rigging and other girth positions. Unfortunately i see yours has sold and i had already ordered a wintec. Waiting on all parts to arrive as you have to buy everything seperately. I cannot get a Y rigging on this one either but read reviews on their ergonomic girth, supposed to prevent galling.

Trying to fit right gullet. Thought measuring tool showed medium wide so changed gullet to that. I don't have girth yet to push saddle down in ace yet but just setting saddle on his back, i can stuff a whole hand and a half under the gullet so i am thinking i may have to change again to the wide. If that doesn't work, not sure what i'll do because i don't think the Pro HART Endurance can accommodate their extra-wide gullets up.

But i really really liked the girth flexibility of this saddle of yours, darn it!
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